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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:16 pm 
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Tourists shun crime-hit Mexico beaches
5Jan2008 - By ELLIOT SPAGAT, Associated Press Writer
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080105/ap_ ... d_tourists

PLAYAS DE ROSARITO, Mexico - Assaults on American tourists have brought hard times to hotels and restaurants that dot Mexican beaches just south of the border from San Diego.

Surfers and kayakers are frightened to hit the waters of the northern stretch of Mexico's Baja California peninsula, long popular as a weekend destination for U.S. tourists. Weddings have been canceled. Lobster joints a few steps from the Pacific were almost empty on the usually busy New Year's weekend.

Americans have long tolerated shakedowns by police who boost salaries by pulling over motorists for alleged traffic violations, and tourists know parts of Baja are a hotbed of drug-related violence. But a handful of attacks since summer by masked, armed bandits — some of whom used flashing lights to appear like police — marks a new extreme that has spooked even longtime visitors.

Lori Hoffman, a San Diego-area emergency room nurse, said she was sexually assaulted Oct. 23 by two masked men in front of her boyfriend, San Diego Surfing Academy owner Pat Weber, who was forced to kneel at gunpoint for 45 minutes. They were at a campground with about 30 tents, some 200 miles south of the border.

The men shot out windows of the couple's trailer and forced their way inside, ransacked the cupboards and left with about $7,000 worth of gear, including computers, video equipment and a guitar.

Weber, who has taught dozens of students in Mexico over the last 10 years, plans to surf in Costa Rica or New Zealand. "No more Mexico," said Hoffman, who reported the attack to Mexican police. No arrests have been made.

The Baja California peninsula is known worldwide for clean and sparsely populated beaches, lobster and margaritas and blue waters visited by whales and dolphins. Surfers love the waves; fishermen catch tuna, yellowtail and marlin. Food and hotels are cheap.

News of harrowing assaults on American tourists has begun to overshadow that appeal in the northern part of the peninsula, home to drug gangs and the seedy border city of Tijuana. The comparatively isolated southern tip, with its tony Los Cabos resort, remains safer and is still popular with Hollywood celebrities, anglers and other foreign tourists.

Local media and surfing Web sites that trumpeted Baja in the past have reported several frightening crimes that U.S. and Mexican officials consider credible. Longtime visitors are particularly wary of a toll road near the border that runs through Playas de Rosarito — Rosarito Beach.

In late November, as they returned from the Baja 1000 off-road race, a San Diego-area family was pulled over on the toll road by a car with flashing lights. Heavily armed men held the family hostage for two hours. They eventually released them but stole the family's truck.

Before dawn on Aug. 31, three surfers were carjacked on the same stretch of highway. Gunmen pulled them over in a car with flashing lights, forced them out of their vehicles and ordered one to kneel. They took the trucks and left the surfers.

Aqua Adventures of San Diego scrapped its annual three-day kayak trip to scout for whales in January, ending a run of about 10 years. Customers had already been complaining about longer waits to return to the U.S.; crime gave them another reason to stay away.

"People are just saying, 'No way.' They don't want to deal with the risk," said owner Jen Kleck, who has sponsored trips to Baja about five times a year but hasn't been since July.

Charles Smith, spokesman for the U.S. consulate in Tijuana, said the U.S. government has not found a widespread increase in attacks against Americans, but he acknowledged many crimes go unreported. The State Department has long warned motorists on Mexico's border to watch for people following them, though no new warnings have been issued.

Mexican officials acknowledge crime has threatened a lifeblood of Baja's economy. In Playas de Rosarito, a city of 130,000, police were forced to surrender their weapons last month for testing to determine links to any crimes. Heavily armed men have patrolled City Hall since a failed assassination attempt on the new police chief left one officer dead. On Thursday the bullet-riddled bodies of a Tijuana police official and another man were found dumped near the beach.

"We cannot minimize what's happening to public safety," said Oscar Escobedo Carignan, Baja's new secretary of tourism. "We're going to impose order ... We're indignant about what's happening."

Tourist visits to Baja totaled about 18 million in 2007, down from 21 million the previous year, Escobedo said. Hotel occupancy dropped about 5 percentage points to 53 percent.

Hugo Torres, owner of the storied Rosarito Beach Hotel and the city's new mayor, estimates the number of visitors to Rosarito Beach since summer is down 30 percent.

In the city's Puerto Nuevo tourist enclave, which offers $20 lobster dinners and $1 margaritas, restaurant managers said sales were down as much as 80 percent from last year. One Saturday afternoon in October, masked bandits wielding pistols walked the streets and kidnapped two men — an American and a Spanish citizen — who were later released unharmed. Two people who were with them were shot and wounded.

Omar Armendariz, who manages a Puerto Nuevo lobster restaurant, is counting on the new state and city governments to make tourists feel safer. He has never seen fewer visitors in his nine years on the job.

"It's dead," he said.


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Very interesting, my son-n- law Josh Baxter(3 time long board Natl. Champ)was in town last week and he was telling me all about the problems in that area of Mexico. He said that he knows a lot of surfers that have experienced the same problems described in the article.


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Thanks for the info. All planned trips to Mexico have been cancelled.


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i want to go down to mexico but i heard something about your required to have a passport now?


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Keep in mind that the article refers to one particular area of Mexico. I went to Cozumel last Feb and had a blast. Never felt unsafe. The trip was relatively inexpensive and amazing. Snorkeling in feb in perfect waters combined with walking the streets with my lady friend sipping on dollar coronas made for a relaxing and perfect trip. Don't be afraid of mexico. Just stay away from baja.


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I grew up near San Diego. We made several trips a year to Ensenada to fish. Never gave a thought to crime in those days. We were more afraid of the police than any criminals.


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Is the crime hitting the Baja area where Jim Sammons has his operation?


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Night Wing wrote:
Is the crime hitting the Baja area where Jim Sammons has his operation?

yes


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I agree that many parts of Mexico are very safe. I have been to Cancun, Cozumel, Playa Del Carmen and just got back from Puerto Vallarta and I never felt in danger at these locations. These are tourist locations and everyone there knows that without tourists there will be no economy. I feel safer in these parts of Mexico then most parts of Dallas. The non tourist areas may very well be another story, the border towns I have been to were pretty sketchy.


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What a shame. A country with so much potential just can't get past the corruption and crime.


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bryan2005 wrote:
i want to go down to mexico but i heard something about your required to have a passport now?


no not yet,,till 2009
that is crossing by bridge,,
airplane you do need passport


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stogeymantx wrote:
I agree that many parts of Mexico are very safe. I have been to Cancun, Cozumel, Playa Del Carmen and just got back from Puerto Vallarta and I never felt in danger at these locations. These are tourist locations and everyone there knows that without tourists there will be no economy. I feel safer in these parts of Mexico then most parts of Dallas. The non tourist areas may very well be another story, the border towns I have been to were pretty sketchy.



I drive to mexico all the time,
offroaded from monterrey mexico to veracruz just A few month ago thru mountain trails and the ocacional paved highways,, sleeping where ever it got dark, never had a problem.
got stoped by the military about 10 times but no big deal, I visit many cities ,go to bars at any time during the night ,and still never a problem.
Mexico is as safe as the USA. just gets more publicity.


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smellyhands wrote:
Keep in mind that the article refers to one particular area of Mexico. I went to Cozumel last Feb and had a blast. Never felt unsafe. The trip was relatively inexpensive and amazing. Snorkeling in feb in perfect waters combined with walking the streets with my lady friend sipping on dollar coronas made for a relaxing and perfect trip. Don't be afraid of mexico. Just stay away from baja.


The hotels etc... in that area understand the economic impact.
They have undercover security as well as visible security everywhere and well paid. When I went I was talking to one guy I always saw "hanging out" in a menancing manner and he made it clear.

Said his income depended on tourists so that tourists were top priority from any country. Kind of a scary sort of comfort after you see it. I got the feeling they did not trust the government security and it left them alone. No Aruba-like incidents to hurt their industry. I got the feeling the businesses banded together and had their own little system of law.

Whatever... it clearly works based on my visits.


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LUISJG wrote:
stogeymantx wrote:
I agree that many parts of Mexico are very safe. I have been to Cancun, Cozumel, Playa Del Carmen and just got back from Puerto Vallarta and I never felt in danger at these locations. These are tourist locations and everyone there knows that without tourists there will be no economy. I feel safer in these parts of Mexico then most parts of Dallas. The non tourist areas may very well be another story, the border towns I have been to were pretty sketchy.



I drive to mexico all the time,
offroaded from monterrey mexico to veracruz just A few month ago thru mountain trails and the ocacional paved highways,, sleeping where ever it got dark, never had a problem.
got stoped by the military about 10 times but no big deal, I visit many cities ,go to bars at any time during the night ,and still never a problem.
Mexico is as safe as the USA. just gets more publicity.


You stop buy Peidras Negras or Neuvo Laredo?

Those places have definitley changed over the past 30 years.
Clearly there are places in the US that are easily as dangerous.
Some places in Oakland are absolutely off limits in the summer
at night.


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Piedras Negras is one of the safest border towns along with acuña
I go once a week to work at eagle pass and always cross to piedras negras to eat and visit friends.

on the other hand Nuevo Laredo is NOT safe. avoid going .
Im in Laredo texas, and dont go to NL anymore only pass real quick to go to monterrey.


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CaptJack wrote:
Night Wing wrote:
Is the crime hitting the Baja area where Jim Sammons has his operation?

yes


NO

The issues have been in Northern Baja not in Baja Sur.
Baja has always been a bit like Wild West, but the border towns have certainly seen a large increase in crime, mainly due to the drug trade. Most of the problems have happened to people traveling solo at night. To be safe we recommend that those driving in Baja go in groups and not drive at night.
We fly into Cabo and then just a short drive up into the Sea of Cortez to the East Cape region. We have had no issues in this area at all. I feel much safer there then at some of the beaches here in San Diego when leaving my truck unattended. Like any where you will have crime from time to time but as of this time Southern Baja is still a very safe place to go. By flying in we avoid any potential problems that could occur on such a long drive through the northern sections of Baja. And in all honesty the issues in Baja get very blown up because you just can't be sure of the police in the Northern State of Baja, the same crimes happen in the US every day.
You don't need to fear going into Mexico, just go about it in a smart manner and with a group if driving.
The people in Southern Baja are some of the most wonderful people you will ever meet. Most willing to give the shirt off their backs to help you when they personally have very little.
I have many friends in Southern Baja and I would hate to have rumors like this hurt them, when they have so little to begin with.
Jim Sammons
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We have just cancelled our rv trip to Mexico because we had no one to travel with and we're not into the overpriced commercial caravans. We had planned to go to southern baja and take our yaks for touring. Maybe next year, if I live that long.


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