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Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:15 am
by beekeeper
We are doing a 3 day/2 night kayak trip on the upper Brazos on July 10. We are putting in at the Hwy 4 bridge about 10-11AM. We will get out on Sunday afternoon, at Rochelles. The exception will be if the river flow is fast, then it could turn into a 1 night trip. Myself and BOP Gunner are definites and we welcome anyone else. Rochelles Canoe Rental, tel 940-659-3341, will provide transfers, but you need to schedule it.

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:33 am
by larry long shadows
I wish but that a bid far for me Thanks for invite

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:34 pm
by Hirsch
Wish I could make this one. I look forward to the report!!! :D

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:06 pm
by Hirsch
On second thought watch the river. It is flowing at 8,620 cfs at the moment. Ideal conditions are considered 500-3,000 cfs. :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:40 pm
by beekeeper
Man! 8600 ft/csec. That may be a too much fun. I suppose we will wait and then re-schedule.

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:29 am
by Hirsch
It was 9,530 when I checked just now!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:49 am
by beekeeper
We're having a dickens of a time doing the Brazos. Now, what is a good backup plan for this weekend? North TX is too full. I just talked to Rochelles and they are locked down for days.

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:51 pm
by Harold Ray
It is flowing at 8,620 cfs at the moment. Ideal conditions are considered 500-3,000 cfs.
I am on the Brazos here in Waco; its been running 9,000 plus cfs for a while, and last I checked they were releasing water above us from most dams. I watch it go by, and its moving. All I can handle is to about 2,500 cfs, but I prefer up to 2,000 at most. 'Course, I'm older now, and there are many younger than I who are braver than I.

A couple of weeks ago, two kayakers got on the Trinity in Dallas when it was running ~9,000 to 10,000. One made it back to shore; they couldn't find the other one.

The Brazos right now is running 7,000 cfs in Waco according to the USGS current water sites; Trinity in Dallas around, 9,000.

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:47 pm
by Harold Ray
Brazos today: ~11,500 cfs according to http://waterwatch.usgs.gov/new/?m=real&r=tx&w=map, Trinity in Dallas: 9,000 cfs. Lots of water!!

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:15 pm
by beekeeper
Oops! The PK discharge is back to 9,000 cf/s.

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:21 pm
by Harold Ray
Waco today:


USGS 08096500 Brazos Rv at Waco, TX
Drainage area: 29559 mi2

Discharge: 13100 cfs

Stage: 13.71 ft
Date: 2015-07-13 18:00:00
Flood stage: 27 ft
Percentile: 98.85 %
Length of Record: 74 years
Class symbol:
% normal (median): 1578.31 %
% normal (mean): 681.27 %

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:52 pm
by Hirsch
I think it may take them a little bit to get a steady flow regulated.

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:48 pm
by fishcliff
Haven't gone from Hwy 16 to Rochelle's, but may be going soon. I've gone from there downstream I think it's 9-10 miles and the other times I've paddled back up to 16.

Right now, it's showing 300 cfs coming out of PK. Is that 20 mile trip a good overnighter or do you feel rushed?

I'd like to spend some time fishing and not feel rushed to make it there by Sunday night, but at the same time I can't do a third day.

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:43 pm
by Harold Ray
Brazos flow in Waco is down a lot: Discharge: 3300 cfs

Highbank: 4,900 cfs

That is a lot different that ~9,000 cfs

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:17 pm
by LearnedHat
fishcliff wrote:Haven't gone from Hwy 16 to Rochelle's, but may be going soon. I've gone from there downstream I think it's 9-10 miles and the other times I've paddled back up to 16.

Right now, it's showing 300 cfs coming out of PK. Is that 20 mile trip a good overnighter or do you feel rushed?

I'd like to spend some time fishing and not feel rushed to make it there by Sunday night, but at the same time I can't do a third day.

240cfs from PK is fine especially when there is still some drainage downstream from the dam. They've been dropping the lake and then gating it to 200-300 and then (because so much water is still coming in via the Brazos) opening it back up. Seems they're terrified of storing one more foot in the lake than the stated conservation pool. Anyway - when they open up a gate to pull the level down, it goes to 9,000 - that 's no good imo although the backside of that when it is falling could be fun.

I was there at 100 once -- got out about 40 times in two days.

Re: Upper Brazos Open Invite

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:04 pm
by Hirsch
fishcliff wrote:Haven't gone from Hwy 16 to Rochelle's, but may be going soon. I've gone from there downstream I think it's 9-10 miles and the other times I've paddled back up to 16.

Right now, it's showing 300 cfs coming out of PK. Is that 20 mile trip a good overnighter or do you feel rushed?

I'd like to spend some time fishing and not feel rushed to make it there by Sunday night, but at the same time I can't do a third day.
I have done it in one night but felt rushed. I much prefer 2 nights.