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 Post subject: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:57 pm 
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On Friday i picked up my new boat from Coastal Paddler in Beaumont. Having owned many kayaks i have always been drawn to the natives for their durability and finish. I had a 14.5 Ultimate Multisport and truly enjoyed it for the time i owned it. It however had a huge drawback for me. Ultimates Hold water and this made offshore out of the question. so last year when i heard about the mariner i said that would be my next kayak. This is definably the best for my needs and im so glad i got it.

The Drive System
While i had the ultimate, i grew quite fond of the propel Multisport drive system. the ability to stay on station in the current and fish is a quality reserved only for these boats. while my friends paddle, then drift, then paddle, then drift, etc i can fish and move. Forward and reverse and all over is no problem. i owned a Hobie Revolution for my offshore boat and while i am a fan of the mirage system, i feel the propel is a better fit for fishing. its only drawback is it is a fixed depth unit. unlike the mirage drive that can fold flat for shallow areas, the propel has to be tilted up for the shallow areas. and the new peddles are much easier on your feet.

The Cockpit
Anyone who has had the chance to ride in an ultimate or any Native boat has to know that there is no seat that is more comfortable than the Native first class seating system. In the Mariner they have exceeded even my wishes in the comfort dept. In the Ultimate Multisport, they locate the seat on the floor of the kayak to give a more stable and low center of gravity. But for me, this made me recline more than i was comfortable and made me feel as i was peddling at an incline. this angle was so sever for me it made fishing more difficult. So to solve this i added the seat riser to the Ultimate and this cured my problem. In the mariner, the angle is perfect. you sit at just the right angle to fish and peddle and there is so much room that you can stretch and move as you please in the cockpit.

Stability
Unrivaled, Enough Said. I know pro angler guys are going to dispute this fact but I tell you this, I can stand on the back deck and pole this kayak and that’s all you need to know about stability. I stood all of my 200lbs on the back deck and the boat said bring it on. Its stability is so much improved over the ultimate and the standing from a seated position is vastly superior to the ultimate too.

Speed and Maneuverability
The Multisport isn’t as fast as the mirage drive but I feel it’s a great balance of speed and endurance. My mirage could almost plane off the boat but I burned out quickly with speed. My propel is quite fast and quiet and there is no hull slap. The 14.5 ultimate was fast but the mariner is much faster. The new rudder is I feel the weakest link in this boat. It doesn’t retract like the PA and it isn’t connected to the keel. I catch it ever time I load it in my bed and im scared that if I was on an oyster bed I can get hung and break it. But it turns much better than the ultimate and overall I give it a 5.

Storage
Any thing you want to bring can go. Large back deck and nice hatch on the bow allow you to carry anything you like.

So to sum it up I love this boat and im sure I missed some key factors but please send me any questions you want and ill answer them to the best I can. The first trip out was this morning at Texas Bayou and had a fantastic time. Caught lots of specs, a nice 30” redfish and many rat reds, flounder, So many croaker, and a couple sand trout. SUPER SLAM for my first Slime of many in my new Mariner. Here are some pics….Joey


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:34 pm 
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Great review Joey, I'm glad you like the new boat.

It's a beauty!!! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:26 am 
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thx pat, me and you have our own little mango floatilla...


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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Yup used the shop mariner the other night to fish lights in the canals for a article reveiw in saltwater angler (saltyangler.com). It's a sweet peddling boat.


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:37 pm 
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So Mo-Jo-Jo-Jo

How do you feel about your Mariner at the 1 year mark???


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:51 pm 
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I don't think Mo Jo Jo Jo aka Joey has ever kept any of his kayaks for a whole year. He did tell me he really enjoyed the Mariner. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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SeTex Drifter wrote:
I don't think Mo Jo Jo Jo aka Joey has ever kept any of his kayaks for a whole year. He did tell me he really enjoyed the Mariner. :D


OK, anyone keep theirs for a year or more? Tombo? Bueller?


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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Lol mark knows me well. I sold my mariner to tkf Tom stubblefield about 5 months ago. Now I have a boat with a motor and am glad but the mariner is defiantly the best kayak I have had out of the 13 I owned


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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vanjr wrote:
SeTex Drifter wrote:
I don't think Mo Jo Jo Jo aka Joey has ever kept any of his kayaks for a whole year. He did tell me he really enjoyed the Mariner. :D


OK, anyone keep theirs for a year or more? Tombo? Bueller?


Still have mine, but my propel drive cracked at the clamp around the thwart tube. For me, its the best kayak for what I do.


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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MoJo-Jo-Jo wrote:
Lol mark knows me well. I sold my mariner to tkf Tom stubblefield about 5 months ago. Now I have a boat with a motor and am glad but the mariner is defiantly the best kayak I have had out of the 13 I owned


Yup, I have it now and I'm enjoying the heck out of it! I, too, believe that it is the best deepwater boat in my fleet.


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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Glad you like it Tom. I know you got the raptor and was wandering if you got to fish it much.


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MoJo-Jo-Jo wrote:
Glad you like it Tom. I know you got the raptor and was wandering if you got to fish it much.


The Raptor is my go-to shallow water boat, but if I have to get from A to B and its more than 18" deep, I'll take the Mariner every time. Sometimes, I take both of them just so I won't have decide at home!


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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This is one of the yaks that I haven't tried and would like to sometime ....... it sure does look comfortable 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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Tombo wrote:
vanjr wrote:
SeTex Drifter wrote:
I don't think Mo Jo Jo Jo aka Joey has ever kept any of his kayaks for a whole year. He did tell me he really enjoyed the Mariner. :D


OK, anyone keep theirs for a year or more? Tombo? Bueller?


Still have mine, but my propel drive cracked at the clamp around the thwart tube. For me, its the best kayak for what I do.


Specifically what do you like to fish? Would this be a good yak for Light House Lakes area for example-assuming the drive is working and everything?


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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that boat has fished lighthouse lakes, shamrock, and many other areas in port aransas area. it does need about 15 inches of water to drive, but it is a dream to paddle and pole. you can stand all over the yak and you can move easily without using the dirve it you get to shallow...


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 Post subject: Re: Native Mariner 12.5 Multisport Review
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i like the color and the looks and see that you are hitting the same old spots,how was the catching


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