Cutthroat Bass in Texas
- Kayak buddy
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:44 am
Cutthroat Bass in Texas
I went fishing again and will be every other day till I get a job in my field. But I caught an elusive Cutthroat Bass, it was safely released so someone else can catch him. Thanks
https://youtu.be/2HIpgFbvDx4[img]https: ... aa0d20.jpg[/img]
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
https://youtu.be/2HIpgFbvDx4[img]https: ... aa0d20.jpg[/img]
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
Those were some good fish. Like the flex of that 3wt very reminiscent of my Hardy 3wt glass.
- Kayak buddy
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:44 am
Re: RE: Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
But this is probably the same quality but 1/4 the price. Its an aggressive taper and it needs a little more weighted line to throw some of bass and panfish bugs i throw. Do u have a recommendation?bones72 wrote:Those were some good fish. Like the flex of that 3wt very reminiscent of my Hardy 3wt glass.
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
I use a Wulff Triangle Taper on mine in 3wt and seems to do the trick. I rarely overline rods as most newer lines are punching above their stated wt anyway. The Wulff lines seem to fit the bill between overlining and using the stated wt in other brands. My 3wt will throw clousers to #4 with medium to small lead eyes and does good with little Bett's poppers too. Haven't pushed her harder than that.
- Kayak buddy
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:44 am
Re: RE: Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
Thanksbones72 wrote:I use a Wulff Triangle Taper on mine in 3wt and seems to do the trick. I rarely overline rods as most newer lines are punching above their stated wt anyway. The Wulff lines seem to fit the bill between overlining and using the stated wt in other brands. My 3wt will throw clousers to #4 with medium to small lead eyes and does good with little Bett's poppers too. Haven't pushed her harder than that.
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
- Ron Mc
- TKF 5000 Club
- Posts: 5686
- Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: downtown Bulverde, Texas
- Contact:
Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
excepting there's nothing elusive about smallmouth-stained spotted bass - it's the A-strain endemic bass that are rare, now in only two creeks protected from smallmouth genetics by natural barriers.
- Kayak buddy
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:44 am
Re: RE: Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
Which one is this?Ron Mc wrote:excepting there's nothing elusive about smallmouth-stained spotted bass - it's the A-strain endemic bass that are rare, now in only two creeks protected from smallmouth genetics by natural barriers.
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
- Ron Mc
- TKF 5000 Club
- Posts: 5686
- Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: downtown Bulverde, Texas
- Contact:
Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
can't tell without a liver biopsy
but blue sheen is a good sign
copper sheen is smallie hybrid
this girl's on the good side, and was caught at a bat cave vent - probably got this size eating the baby bats that fell in.
Our endemic bass will also live in the aquifer, which smallies won't, and the next drought may cull some hybrids
My video on the subject was an episode of KT Diaries, True Texas Bass.
but blue sheen is a good sign
copper sheen is smallie hybrid
this girl's on the good side, and was caught at a bat cave vent - probably got this size eating the baby bats that fell in.
Our endemic bass will also live in the aquifer, which smallies won't, and the next drought may cull some hybrids
My video on the subject was an episode of KT Diaries, True Texas Bass.
- Kayak buddy
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:44 am
Re: RE: Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
If they keep flooding the rivers with Guads mating behavior should purify the hybrids.Ron Mc wrote:can't tell without a liver biopsy
but blue sheen is a good sign
copper sheen is smallie hybrid
this girl's on the good side, and was caught at a bat cave vent - probably got this size eating the baby bats that fell in.
Our endemic bass will also live in the aquifer, which smallies won't, and the next drought may cull some hybrids
My video on the subject was an episode of KT Diaries, True Texas Bass.
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
- Ron Mc
- TKF 5000 Club
- Posts: 5686
- Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: downtown Bulverde, Texas
- Contact:
Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
that's extremely unlikely - flooding the rivers with stocked fish is a band-aid.
Once that stops, endemic Guadalupe bass will become extinct unless we have a drought severe enough to wipe out the hybrids in the big stretches of the rivers.
With current groundwater usage, that's possible.
Once that stops, endemic Guadalupe bass will become extinct unless we have a drought severe enough to wipe out the hybrids in the big stretches of the rivers.
With current groundwater usage, that's possible.
Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
Unfortunately what Ron says is so true. Many of the fish native to different regions are under threat even where they are supposedly" pure". Greenback and Rio Grande cutthroat in Colorado and New Mexico and Southern Appalachian Strain Brook Trout (SASBT) back east or Golden Trout out in California.
What is even sadder is that much of the unwanted DNA is added by people wanting to help. The greenbacks planted in Rocky Mountain National Park where found to contain a high degree of other cutthroat and rainbow genetics. Now the only supposedly pure strain of greenbacks is limited to one lower elevation creek just outside of Colorado Springs that would be subject to thermal pollution due to lack of canopy, over siltation because the creek had not been protected for years and had offroad vehicle trails around and through the stream bed, and that all goes without mentioning the threat of fire s so prevalent in the mountain west. In the case of the SASBT in an effort to restore brookies to their native ranges the National Park Service and National Forest together with a host of state agencies planted northern strain fish ontop of vestigial populations of native fish not understanding the southern strain chars had unique adaptions to living south of the New River in Va.
I could go on and on about how people have screwed up so many unique environments but at the same time I am thankful for what we have at present. I also love reading about everyone's adventures here and the awesome biology and history lessons I glean from folks like Ron.
What is even sadder is that much of the unwanted DNA is added by people wanting to help. The greenbacks planted in Rocky Mountain National Park where found to contain a high degree of other cutthroat and rainbow genetics. Now the only supposedly pure strain of greenbacks is limited to one lower elevation creek just outside of Colorado Springs that would be subject to thermal pollution due to lack of canopy, over siltation because the creek had not been protected for years and had offroad vehicle trails around and through the stream bed, and that all goes without mentioning the threat of fire s so prevalent in the mountain west. In the case of the SASBT in an effort to restore brookies to their native ranges the National Park Service and National Forest together with a host of state agencies planted northern strain fish ontop of vestigial populations of native fish not understanding the southern strain chars had unique adaptions to living south of the New River in Va.
I could go on and on about how people have screwed up so many unique environments but at the same time I am thankful for what we have at present. I also love reading about everyone's adventures here and the awesome biology and history lessons I glean from folks like Ron.
- Kayak buddy
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:44 am
Re: RE: Re: Cutthroat Bass in Texas
But we are talking about Guadalupe bass and what is the truth about trout isn't the truth in GuadalupeBass. Genetics will always trigger behavioral responses. Bass don't have the limiting confound that trout do, one of them is the Bohr and Root effect on respiration. Trout will always be limited by this.bones72 wrote:Unfortunately what Ron says is so true. Many of the fish native to different regions are under threat even where they are supposedly" pure". Greenback and Rio Grande cutthroat in Colorado and New Mexico and Southern Appalachian Strain Brook Trout (SASBT) back east or Golden Trout out in California.
What is even sadder is that much of the unwanted DNA is added by people wanting to help. The greenbacks planted in Rocky Mountain National Park where found to contain a high degree of other cutthroat and rainbow genetics. Now the only supposedly pure strain of greenbacks is limited to one lower elevation creek just outside of Colorado Springs that would be subject to thermal pollution due to lack of canopy, over siltation because the creek had not been protected for years and had offroad vehicle trails around and through the stream bed, and that all goes without mentioning the threat of fire s so prevalent in the mountain west. In the case of the SASBT in an effort to restore brookies to their native ranges the National Park Service and National Forest together with a host of state agencies planted northern strain fish ontop of vestigial populations of native fish not understanding the southern strain chars had unique adaptions to living south of the New River in Va.
I could go on and on about how people have screwed up so many unique environments but at the same time I am thankful for what we have at present. I also love reading about everyone's adventures here and the awesome biology and history lessons I glean from folks like Ron.
Parent genetics are not always 50-50, sometimes it 60-40. This can be the hope for the Guadalupe Bass.
My presumption is purely observational and is not backed up by any scientific studies I know.
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk