Building a simple external strong back.
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Building a simple external strong back.
I needed another strong back so I built one.
I start out with a simple ladder frame. In this case it's 2X6's, overall depth of 16". 1/2" plywood glued on for the sides. Stand detail. Add the top. You're done Tomorrow or the next day I'll show the forms attached.
...and here we go with the forms attached to the new strong back.
I start out with a simple ladder frame. In this case it's 2X6's, overall depth of 16". 1/2" plywood glued on for the sides. Stand detail. Add the top. You're done Tomorrow or the next day I'll show the forms attached.
...and here we go with the forms attached to the new strong back.
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
Thanks Gerald nice stiff back! I need to build one of those but I have to get that bow tillered first and install a water line at my cabin. Never ending story.
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
This will get lost if it isn't made into a Sticky or some way to save it.
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
I have been reading about how to build one, the pictures make it all make sense.
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
It will be added to the Building Tip thread when I get some time.Night Wing wrote:This will get lost if it isn't made into a Sticky or some way to save it.
Re: Building a simple external strong back.
Nice strongback -- you can build an unlimited number of boats on that baby, I'm thinking. Oh boy, how I envy your shop and ability to have more than one project underway at a time. Maybe some day . . . . .
Here's a pretty simple box beam strongback built of bargain bin plywood:
And an ever simpler T-beam affair made of same (I always ask for damaged plywood, get some GREAT deals):
Here's a pretty simple box beam strongback built of bargain bin plywood:
And an ever simpler T-beam affair made of same (I always ask for damaged plywood, get some GREAT deals):
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
Some great examples from pogo...
I've also added a picture with the forms attached to the new strong back in the original first post.
I've also added a picture with the forms attached to the new strong back in the original first post.
Re: Building a simple external strong back.
Gerald,
Talk about GREAT timing for this post!! I was gonna drop you a line asking about this very topic.
What is the finished table height on this strongback?
Talk about GREAT timing for this post!! I was gonna drop you a line asking about this very topic.
What is the finished table height on this strongback?
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
The table height is around 28" or so on this one. My other strong back is 27" high. Both are 12" wide on top. This can be variable depending on the height you like to work.
Re: Building a simple external strong back.
Having only built a boat with an internal strong back, How do you strip the deck with an external strong back?
Re: Building a simple external strong back.
OJ,
Go to Gerald website and into his photo galleries. On the album for Night Wings OI, you will see it. Go to:
http://texaspaddler.com/gallery/Night-W ... and?page=1 Go to page 5 and beginning on pictuer 40, you will see the Hull upside down on the strongback and the beginnings of the deck-stripping....
Go to Gerald website and into his photo galleries. On the album for Night Wings OI, you will see it. Go to:
http://texaspaddler.com/gallery/Night-W ... and?page=1 Go to page 5 and beginning on pictuer 40, you will see the Hull upside down on the strongback and the beginnings of the deck-stripping....
ojdidit wrote:Having only built a boat with an internal strong back, How do you strip the deck with an external strong back?
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
Turn the boat over and remove the stands attached to the forms. This is variable, but most of the time I apply fiberglass on the hull, turn the boat over and do the deck. Sometimes I remove the forms and do the inside of the hull first and replace the forms, but not often.ojdidit wrote:Having only built a boat with an internal strong back, How do you strip the deck with an external strong back?
I do not like internal stiff backs (strong back) but will use them if necessary.
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
I have been working on building a strongback for my next project. One of my neighbors gave me a bunch of plywood so I have been trying to use it. So far the only lumber I have had to purchase is two 2"X6"X16'.
I installed handles at each end to make it a little more "mover" friendly, or at least as "mover" friendly as a couple hundred pounds wood can be
I also hate tripping over extension cords so I installed 4 outlets.
So here is my question, I used the ladder method similar to Gerald's but I don't have enough plywood to finish out the second side:
Is there any reason I can't just turn it on it's side (like the next picture) and mount my stanchions from here. Isn't the idea is to have a nice level platform to work from? Is another piece of plywood really going to make much of a difference?
I installed handles at each end to make it a little more "mover" friendly, or at least as "mover" friendly as a couple hundred pounds wood can be
I also hate tripping over extension cords so I installed 4 outlets.
So here is my question, I used the ladder method similar to Gerald's but I don't have enough plywood to finish out the second side:
Is there any reason I can't just turn it on it's side (like the next picture) and mount my stanchions from here. Isn't the idea is to have a nice level platform to work from? Is another piece of plywood really going to make much of a difference?
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
I love the outlets idea! Great thinking. Man...ain't it wonderful the ideas that come out of this forum...
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
I don't know the real answer but geralds looks like it's on it's edge. I think the ply is to be on the side.
Mike
Mike
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Re: Building a simple external strong back.
Oh...in answer to your question about laying the strong back on it's side:
It would probably work but you would loose the strength of the laminated plywood on both sides. In your scenario the strength is primarily coming from the 2 X 6 material. The plywood is serving as a stiffener for the 2 X 6 boards, but still the wide side of the solid lumber is providing the strength. Should be strong enough except for the fact that solid lumber tends to sag over time unless you have really straight and strong grain and/or you put the crown up. Even with the crown up it will sag over time.
With 12" of plywood laminated on both sides, and standing on edge, the plywood is providing the strength while the solid lumber is providing the stiffener. I add the plywood on top for more working space and edge clamping...and it adds to sideways stiffness...though that is just a peripheral benefit. Even with plywood laminated on both sides I add a little bit of crown to the strong back. I would rather my strong backs have a small amount of crown rather than any amount of sway back....
It would probably work but you would loose the strength of the laminated plywood on both sides. In your scenario the strength is primarily coming from the 2 X 6 material. The plywood is serving as a stiffener for the 2 X 6 boards, but still the wide side of the solid lumber is providing the strength. Should be strong enough except for the fact that solid lumber tends to sag over time unless you have really straight and strong grain and/or you put the crown up. Even with the crown up it will sag over time.
With 12" of plywood laminated on both sides, and standing on edge, the plywood is providing the strength while the solid lumber is providing the stiffener. I add the plywood on top for more working space and edge clamping...and it adds to sideways stiffness...though that is just a peripheral benefit. Even with plywood laminated on both sides I add a little bit of crown to the strong back. I would rather my strong backs have a small amount of crown rather than any amount of sway back....