Electric Bilge Pump
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Electric Bilge Pump
I have done the search but did not have the "magic words" to locate, so please bare with me.
I am looking to install a bilge pump in the front of my PA-14, at the point where it is too narrow for the standard pump. So my thought is to configure some tubing to lay in the narrow space to get most of the water out. Because water drains to that area mostly it can pump from this point always. Anyone have any good suggestions? I want to use an automatic so it will start pumping the minute I turtle. once the yak is righted I don't have to worry about quickly getting in and removing the front tub and began the bailing process. Normal pumps will leave about an inch of water in the hull and I would like to remove as much as possible with out unloading the front end and completing the manual process.
I am looking to install a bilge pump in the front of my PA-14, at the point where it is too narrow for the standard pump. So my thought is to configure some tubing to lay in the narrow space to get most of the water out. Because water drains to that area mostly it can pump from this point always. Anyone have any good suggestions? I want to use an automatic so it will start pumping the minute I turtle. once the yak is righted I don't have to worry about quickly getting in and removing the front tub and began the bailing process. Normal pumps will leave about an inch of water in the hull and I would like to remove as much as possible with out unloading the front end and completing the manual process.
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Re: Electric Bilge Pump
anyone have any experience with the Whale pump?
http://www.whalepumps.com/marine/produc ... art-Family
http://www.whalepumps.com/marine/produc ... art-Family
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Re: Electric Bilge Pump
I have to ask, do you get a lot of water in your yak from normal use? If you do then I would look at sealing the leaks first and then think about a bilge as last resort. If you turtle your electronics may be fried anyway so the pump helping you out is moot.
I recently fixed a rear hatch leak on my Hobie PA 14 by buying a new hatch (from another kayaker selling his unused one on this site). No more leak. If I get more water I use my manual bilge which I store UNDER my front hatch bucket. I hardly ever carry anything in the hatch if I BTB but in bay and choppy conditions I load it halfway but not enough to not be able to access the pump under the bucket. I pulled my bucket out once and put it in the water and it floated with all my gear! You have to test out new ideas in the water so you know.
Most any water that gets in comes from hitting waves BTB and coming over edge of bucket when front end submerges in waves. I bought and added more of the rubber gasket from ACK and lined my hatch so I do not get as much as I used to but still get a about quart to half gallon from 2' waves and swells all day.
But as for the leaks get them fixed first.
I recently fixed a rear hatch leak on my Hobie PA 14 by buying a new hatch (from another kayaker selling his unused one on this site). No more leak. If I get more water I use my manual bilge which I store UNDER my front hatch bucket. I hardly ever carry anything in the hatch if I BTB but in bay and choppy conditions I load it halfway but not enough to not be able to access the pump under the bucket. I pulled my bucket out once and put it in the water and it floated with all my gear! You have to test out new ideas in the water so you know.
Most any water that gets in comes from hitting waves BTB and coming over edge of bucket when front end submerges in waves. I bought and added more of the rubber gasket from ACK and lined my hatch so I do not get as much as I used to but still get a about quart to half gallon from 2' waves and swells all day.
But as for the leaks get them fixed first.
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I want this for turtling, I would hope that the electronics aren't shot just because of turtling after all they sell these knowing the are going on a kayak. I am a big guy and once I right the kayak I would like the pump to immediately start to to move the water. I enter from the front, in choppy conditions it may take longer to right the kayak, meaning more water in the front hatch bowl and in the hull. Having the hatch open to manually pump out water can cause more water to get in do, leaving the hatch closed for a bit allowing the bilge to remove the water in the hull before opening to empty the bowl only makes life safer.kickingback wrote:I have to ask, do you get a lot of water in your yak from normal use? If you do then I would look at sealing the leaks first and then think about a bilge as last resort. If you turtle your electronics may be fried anyway so the pump helping you out is moot.
I recently fixed a rear hatch leak on my Hobie PA 14 by buying a new hatch (from another kayaker selling his unused one on this site). No more leak. If I get more water I use my manual bilge which I store UNDER my front hatch bucket. I hardly ever carry anything in the hatch if I BTB but in bay and choppy conditions I load it halfway but not enough to not be able to access the pump under the bucket. I pulled my bucket out once and put it in the water and it floated with all my gear! You have to test out new ideas in the water so you know.
Most any water that gets in comes from hitting waves BTB and coming over edge of bucket when front end submerges in waves. I bought and added more of the rubber gasket from ACK and lined my hatch so I do not get as much as I used to but still get a about quart to half gallon from 2' waves and swells all day.
But as for the leaks get them fixed first.
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Re: Electric Bilge Pump
Sounds logical to me. I was thinking of the wiring to the battery getting wet if stowed under deck but as long as you have the wires fully protected from any salt water and spare fuses I guess you'll be OK. Good luck I hope you find a good solution.
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Re: Electric Bilge Pump
you can reduce the overall amount of water you need to bilge by adding marine inflation pour foam in the hatches and areas you dont use for storage, etc. Pool noodles work well as a temporary fix for this
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Re: Electric Bilge Pump
@mobyyack, have you done this? If so can you give some details
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Yes I have foamed a kayak using two part flotation foam from a company in Florida called us composites. Simply mix the two parts for thirty second and pour. Best done in hot conditions
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Search this website for two part polyurethane flotation foam and you'll find pics of the finished product at the end of the thread
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