- Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:54 am
Yeah, I was a cub scout den leader for 4 and a half years, did BALOO training, so I'm familiar with BSA guidelines, which do actually allow youth-operated paddle sports on calm or gently flowing waters all the way down to Wolf (2nd grade)(and first graders with adult partner), . What I liked about BSA is they knew to change with the times. When I was a cub scout, there was no camping until one trip when you were a WEBELOS, but BSA realized to a lot of people camping and scouting were synonymous and they were losing a lot of boys bridging to a Troop, so they started allowing family camping for cubs. Also they recognized that some cub scouts might not have a father in their life, so made the camping inclusive for mothers and siblings. Girl Scouts is really inflexible, and not family oriented at all, fathers are elbowed out, and there is no such thing as "family camping" just to get the girls outside and enjoying camping, from the very first campout at the lowest age the girls are expected to demonstrate a lot of skills (many of them antiquated and even out of touch with Leave No Trace) in order to be allowed to camp. It's a bit overzealous, when the parents in our group just want our kids to get a taste of being out and enjoying nature with their friends. And the mothers who run the troop like to say our girls are doing "girl scouts lite" to avoid a lot of the bureaucratic BS and overemphasis on advancements, a lot of them kind of dumb.
So every year we have an unofficial "campout for families whose girls just happen to be in the same Girl Scout troop" as we like to call it to get around all that. It's usually 4 or 5 girls and their parents, who all know each other well and are friends. As the troop is not continuing next year, this year will be the last one. Most of the dads are experienced paddlers and two of us are ACA instructors, but still we want a GUIDED trip, which is why I asked for outfitter names. I've taken my daughter on a guided whitewater rafting trip in northern New Mexico, and saw other children on previous rafting trips, so I don't think a guided canoe trip would be age-inappropriate. We aren't looking for rapids or anything, just an easy float.
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