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.17 hm2 (.17 mach 2)?

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Anybody ever shoot one? What did you think?

Anybody know where to find ammo? Anyone have any ammo they want to part with?

I'm thinking of buying a marlin chambered in .17 mach 2 and can get one heck of a deal on it with 150 rounds but that's going to go quick in a new-to-me gun! So far I've struck out everywhere I've looked and am starting to suspect that's why the deal is so good! I know they (cci) still do limited runs of it on occasion so its not completely obsolete but I just can't find any anywhere?
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I think you would be better off with a 17 hmr. It's no fun having a gun you can't shoot.
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the ammo is impossible to find on the regular. buy a 17hmr if you're too cool for .22 8)
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Lol not too cool for a 22. I already have a nice one. Looking for something that shoots flatter and that won't destroy a squirrel or rabbit if body shot. Also something that is as quiet as possible. Because of those two reasons, the hmr is out. Its much louder than a 22 lr and does some major damage to small game. Sighted in at 100 yds, my .22 with the sub sonic ammo it likes will shoot a 5 shot group that can be covered by a quarter but it'll be 8" high at 50 yds. The 17 m2 is supposed to have the same or better accuracy at 100 yds but only be 0.6" high at 50. I'd really lime to add it to my collection but its looking like ammo is going to be really hard to come by! I did find lots of 17 PMC (aquila) which will work in the gun but I'm reading mixed results on accuracy. Still on the fence on purchasing one but its going to be hard to pass on a marlin bolt action with a heavy barrel, 3-9 Bushnell scope, bipod and 150 rounds of ammo for $175!
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I can tell you the .17 m2 isn't much more quiet than a regular .17 hmr. the biggest concern for you is going to be ammo....it was expensive 5+ years ago when i had one and you could find it everywhere. i'd hate to see what it is now if you can find it! maybe .22 mag?
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What would you be shooting at out at 100 yards with subsonic rounds? Whats the reason for the subsonic rounds? For small game hunting having a zero of 100 yards seems like way to long of a shot to me unless your hunting 1 tree in the middle of a field...
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My rifle likes the subsonic rounds (RWS Target Rifle to be exact). At 100 yds, I can cover a 5 shot group with a quarter most days depending on wind. With the higher velocity rounds, even the match grade, its more like a 6" group with all the ones I've tried (got 12 different boxes at the house right now!)

For squirrels, I agree 100 yds is a pretty long and pretty rare shot. For rabbits at my lease, its a pretty normal occurrence. I rarely use subsonic rounds for hunting anyway. Mostly just for target shooting.

Basically I can get it done with the .22 but wanted to add another caliber to my safe and have another toy to play with. I found a heck of a deal on the 17 mach 2 and if I could find ammo for it, I would buy it in a heart beat. Seems like a neat little round. As of now, I told the guy I was bowing out due to the scarcity of the ammo. I may end up getting a 17 hmr in the future but it just doesn't interest me right now. Never really had an interest in the 22 mag either. Not that they arent great guns but just don't peak my interest at the moment.
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I would buy it at 175. It will never decrease in value. But like everyone else said, finding the ammo will be the battle. You have to constantly be on the lookout and I'd say if you can find a case of hm2 (5K rounds) buy it.

I'd rather a .22 and stalk down prey to a distance more reasonable. The longest shot I would consider would be 75-80 yards with a scoped rifle that can compensate for the bullet drop.

I only have one scoped rifle and it has a custom barrel chambered for .22 short only and my max shots I take are at 40 yards or less. The rest of my .22's have peep sights or open sights.
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Yea my fear is if they completely cease production of the hm2 ammo, the gun would be worthless. If it was a reloadable cartridge, that would be a different story and I'd snap it up in a heart beat.

Instead of the hm2, I ordered a new synthetic stock for my 22 so I don't have to worry about scratching my good one up hunting with it. The new stock also comes with fittings to mount a sling so carrying it will be easier. Here's a pic of one just like it. The new stock is just a basic black synthetic.

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I think I'm just going to save my money for now. May pick up something else down the road
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I picked up my 17 hmr for about $300 with scope. I figured it would be my new plinker since 22 wre hard to come by. Turns out its a great little gun. Confirmed kill on a prairie dog at 528 yards.
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I guess in a pinch you could ream the chamber out to an HMR, and just make a very problematic single-shot out of it..

I've got an HM2 from back when they first came out, I probably have enough ammo for it once you consider how rarely I actually shoot it. Hopefully it will come back once the .22 production catches back up..
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17 HMR or 17 WSM?
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.17 mach 2 (.17 hm2).

Basically where the .17 hmr is based on the 22 mag, the .17 hm2 is based off the 22 lr (the CCI stinger to be exact). I'm still in the market for some ammo if anyone finds any. If I finally find some, I may still buy the rifle. He has about 150 rounds that go with it so I need another 200 or so rounds for it to be worth gambling on them making more.
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I bought a Savage .17 HMR and it is a blast to shoot. Not really much louder than my 10/22. It is very accurate too.
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Bought a 17hmr, son has it now. Great little gun, a marlin heavy barrel bolt. I actually did a little bedding on it (don't ask me why but I did) lol. Then ordered a rifle basix trigger and installed that. Put a cat's eye sweet 17 scope on it. Trigger is between 2 and 3 ounces and it good to 300 yards depending on wind. I'd stay with the hmr and stay away from h2. Kinda like the rem 5mm years ago.
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I ended up buying the hm2. Eventually I may end up buying an hmr later down the road. Right now I have about 120 rounds of ammo and just ordered the only other box I've been able to find. Stumbled on it from a gun shop in Miami, FL searching the net for ammo. As for the noise, it is louder than my 22 LR shooting standard velocity ammo so I can imagine how much louder an hmr would be! Its a neat little round and I sure wish they'd make another run of ammo for it.

Still in the market for some more ammo if anyone happens to run across any.
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If you make it to the Hill Country, let me know and we can see which is louder. :D
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Cans don't count lol!!!

I can tell you after shooting 50 rounds or so out of the mach 2 this weekend along side my 22 lr and my brothers 22 lr, the mach 2 is noticebly louder than the 22s even shooting hyper sonic 22lr!

I picked up a brick of horniday ammo last weekend and I'm picking up another brick of eley in a couple weeks. I should be stocked up!
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