Watched a video the other day that impressed me quite a bit. Some dude (survivalist) explained (and demonstrated while wearing non-neoprene waders) how and why people drown while wearing waders. He also explained how to safely deal with related situations.
Information he presented is kinda obvious and yet non-straightforward and I would unlikely to ever realize it when under the pressure of being in "a bind". Anyways, I thought you guys may find this useful or simply interesting...
Why?
Apparently majority of fatalities come from the fact that people (after slipping into a hole, or sand shifted and gave away, or swept by current) stay upright for too long trying to regain ground -- thus losing air from waders (it gets replaced by water rushing over the edge of waders). This is an instinctive reaction and by the time it becomes clear that it isn't going to work (i.e. for whatever reason you can't "walk back" using your feet) -- it is too late, waders are full and now you are in a real trouble.
What to do?
According to that guy correct thing to do is immediately bring your knees to your chest -- basically, you are supposed to end up floating on your back with your face and your feet on surface and your butt pointing down. Air in your waders will accumulate in your boots and calf area and will provide enough buoyancy to keep your lower body floating; air in lungs/etc should keep upper part afloat. Now you use your arms to paddle yourself to shallows and stand up ONLY if you know it is safe and shallow.
So, basically main trick is to avoid doing stuff that causes you to lose air in waders.
Additional notes
- if forced to swim on your belly (for whatever reason) -- keep legs bent at the knee with feet pointing up (to keep air pockets at the end of waders intact) and swim in brass style. Swimming using breast strokes will cause your legs to go down, lose air and tire you too fast. Butterfly isn't a good idea either.
- Neoprene waders are better in that sense -- they retain some air in material even if completely flooded
- last resort is to try to take waders off -- advice was not to try it unless you've done it before or are desperate. Proper way of doing it is to "roll it off of you" as opposed to getting out of it (which would be hard due to negative pressure created by your actions).
- he really insisted on everyone actually trying this in controlled environment, so that you are familiar with situation, know what to expect, don't panic (and do stupid stuff) when this actually happens
how not to drown in waders
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Good stuff!
That sounds the best when not wearing a life jacket. I know to wear one around SLP or other areas with high current. Other areas that are shallow I don't mind too much about a LJ.
This video shows how to do it withe a life jacket on as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcRKx69_E34
Only issue would be if you stepped into a quick sand or mud area and your feet get stuck. it would push all the air out and then they may fill up and when you pull your legs out the water that got in may get to your legs and feet.
Good points though!
That sounds the best when not wearing a life jacket. I know to wear one around SLP or other areas with high current. Other areas that are shallow I don't mind too much about a LJ.
This video shows how to do it withe a life jacket on as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcRKx69_E34
Only issue would be if you stepped into a quick sand or mud area and your feet get stuck. it would push all the air out and then they may fill up and when you pull your legs out the water that got in may get to your legs and feet.
Good points though!
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Good share. I’m bad about not wearing a PFD. I’m not bad about panicking around water, but there’s always the first time. Certainly, I’ve been in situations that might have led to drowning. I hardly ever wear waders.
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I'm in favor of always wearing a live vest if In unknown waters or in waters that might present hazardous situations. I'm surprised that the safety instructor did not mention that you should always wear a belt when using waders.
I took the advice of a Montana guide I fished with way back when. He told me to leave my chest highs at the camp and get a pair of wast highs. His contention was that if you fish water over crotch deep, you should probably think about using a boat (and that was way before the popularity of kayaks). I haven't owned a pair of chest highs since...,with no regrets.
I took the advice of a Montana guide I fished with way back when. He told me to leave my chest highs at the camp and get a pair of wast highs. His contention was that if you fish water over crotch deep, you should probably think about using a boat (and that was way before the popularity of kayaks). I haven't owned a pair of chest highs since...,with no regrets.
Re: how not to drown in waders
It wasn't a safety instructor, it was a specialist on surviving in extreme circumstances. It doesn't matter how you ended up in that situation, whether it was preventable or not. The idea was that if it did happen -- now you know how to survive it. Or, at least, this is the claim (that I hope I will never need to verify).Kayak Kid wrote:I'm in favor of always wearing a live vest if In unknown waters or in waters that might present hazardous situations. I'm surprised that the safety instructor did not mention that you should always wear a belt when using waders.
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Re: how not to drown in waders
Great post Crusader!.. good information.
Re: how not to drown in waders
Good stuff. I always marvel at folks not wearing a cinched up wading belt. On fast moving rivers, a tight belt will save your life. This situation is different, but I believe a cinched up belt buys you more time. The notion of elevating your legs and feet is the key lesson regardless once you’ve lost control and are in the current.
I guess this is much easier than trying to it open your waders LOL.
Cool stuff.
Thanks for posting
I guess this is much easier than trying to it open your waders LOL.
Cool stuff.
Thanks for posting
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Re: how not to drown in waders
Yeah, the most basic safety tip for waders has always been to wear a tight belt over them.