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#2251241
As another cold water/weather season sets in I 'm wondering if there are suggestions for staying mostly waterproof without waders. I usually wear good breathable stockingfoot waders and a goretex wade jacket in the dead of winter and am a bit extra cautious to avoid turtles. Re- entry with full wade gear doesn't sound fun.
To avoid the bulk of full waders with wade boots etc, I'm wondering if anyone has a wade pant & wade jacket; waterproof pant with wade jacket; or some other way to stay mostly dry, warm, and safe during the colder water times. Any suggested alternatives to the breathable waders?
#2251319
I just bought a pair of Frogg Togg Hellbender wading pants:

https://www.froggtoggs.com/hellbender-s ... uide-pant/

I think you can find them on sale for around $90. I have used them twice in a kayak and twice as surf waders. They work and are comfortable in both applications. You will need to layer for thermal protection (no cotton).

All in all, I would buy them again. HTH.
#2251398
Have used a pair of Frogg Toggs Pilot II breathable stocking foot pants for about a year now and really like them. Have also heard good things about the Hellbenders but decided to go with the Pilot II because of the leg construction (might be all marketing but thought that the extra material in the legs would be better suited for the yak). Adding layers makes them very capable in all but the coldest of temperatures. They are also a whole lot easier to manage when mother nature calls! I usually pair them with lace up boots from Academy (add a size or two to make plenty of room for the booties) but have also used zip up neoprene shoes for colder days. I also have a variety of jackets that I wear depending on the temperature. And no matter which pair you get, make sure to research the size/fitting charts. Plenty of good information out there.

PS: I keep a Frogg Togg rain suit in my yak most of the time (Walmart has good prices on them). I bought the rain suit a size bigger so it can easily slide over whatever I'm wearing. That extra layer makes a huge difference when the nights turn colder or if the wind picks up.
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#2252373
I had heard, "dress for the water, not the air" when kayaking, and thought it good advice. The water can be a good bit colder and, if you turtle, there's that frigid wind chill. Hypothermia is pretty serious. So I got a pair of NRS Hydroskin pants and shirt for just this reason. It's a lightweight neoprene, tight fitting. Reasoned it will keep me warm even if I turtle and it gets wet. And it does. Problem is, it gets warm pretty fast when you're paddling out. You're body try's to cool down by sweating, but the sweat just builds up under the neoprene, Neoprene doesn't breath. I usually overheat and have to peel off layers. I wouldn't recommend it for kayak fishing in Texas. But it is great for surf fishing in the Fall, when you're constantly in the water.

If it's in the 50's I wear breathable waders, cinched tight at the belt, maybe fleece, and a breathable rain jacket on top to cut the wind and paddle splashes. Life jacket of course. No cotton!

Less than 50, I'm not on the water.
#2252785
I just got a pair of the Frogg Toggs Hellbender Guide Pants. I chose to go with the pants over chest waders since my PFD would cover the wader straps and thinking of emergency egress I opted to give the pants a try. My main objective is to keep water off of me in cooler weather and still get out and stretch my legs in shallow water.

I am 6'-0" / 170 lb / size 10 shoe. To date, I have only tried them on (dry test). They went on nicely. There seems to be ample room on legs/crotch to sit in kayak and move around as necessary, and add a base layer. The neoprene booties were neither too big nor too tight. I have not tried them with my wading boots yet. My concern, so far, is getting the booties back off my feet was tedious. I was barefoot in my trial and I normally wear graduated compression socks, which are thin and I am hoping will provide some "slippage".

Upon official un-wrapping, I will have to report back on bootie removal with socks and wet test. Hopefully it takes several in-situ tests along the coast :wink:
#2252788
I usually wear shorts and a jacket on all but the coldest days. I find if I can keep my torso and head warm, I’m usually comfortable. If I get a little cold, I’ll paddle hard for a while to generate some heat. The worst solution is having any pants that stays wet like anything cotton. I’ll don breathable waders on really cold days.
#2252999
I used to use muck boots and rain pants to keep me dry. The boots helped when entering the kayak and the rain pants kept the rest dry while paddling. This worked pretty well.

Lately I’ve been using breathable waders. The key is to keep them cinched at the waist. My thinking is that the PFD should, for the most part, keep the top of the waders out of the water.

But I am also interested in the wading pants others mentioned.


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#2253002
crusher wrote:As another cold water/weather season sets in I 'm wondering if there are suggestions for staying mostly waterproof without waders. I usually wear good breathable stockingfoot waders and a goretex wade jacket in the dead of winter and am a bit extra cautious to avoid turtles. Re- entry with full wade gear doesn't sound fun.
To avoid the bulk of full waders with wade boots etc, I'm wondering if anyone has a wade pant & wade jacket; waterproof pant with wade jacket; or some other way to stay mostly dry, warm, and safe during the colder water times. Any suggested alternatives to the breathable waders?

I've been monitoring this thread since the OP. I would like to add a few thoughts.
One: I rarely kayak in the winter. I don't see much good in fishing shallow water in the winter and am not comfortable with the deep water scenario you are planning for.
Two: if you are paddling in water deeper than you can stand up in w/out your waders filling up, and you are trying to plan for re-entry without full waders in the dead of winter, I think you might as well have a wetsuit as your underlayer. Hypothermia is not something you want top deal with on a 2 mile paddle back to your launch.
#2253109
I just got these NRS Boundary wade shoes from ACK. More like boots. They are surprisingly comfortable. Work great with pedal drive. I can launch my beastly Predator PDL in sneakers without getting my feet wet, but it's just way easier on my hull to be able to wade out to a little deeper water before I get in.

For the price, it's really hard to beat the Academy brand rain overalls. H2O Express brand, I think. The ones they sell now are the "soft shell." Mine are the older style. Not sure if they still have them for sale, but the ones I have were on sale and like $60. The soft shell ones go for $100, and if they are as good as the old ones, pretty good deal.
#2253113
So, I made the maiden voyage yesterday with my Frogg Toggs Hellbender wade pants. Since it was just getting into the 50’s I chose to wear some liners underneath. They got a bit warm at times, but at other times I was happy to have them. They certainly kept me dry and allowed me wade a bit, take nature breaks, etc. to protect the booties I procured a quality pair of canvas Converse knock-offs (<$10 at Wally World). The issue is they are still a bit difficult to remove (get over heels), but thin socks help.

In pic you can see the water beading off the pants and the stylish shoes. Oh....and a flattie friend
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